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This morning the Little Hobo has joined the fleet...or was there all along and now has an active AIS transmitting a received signal-




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Did anything ever pop up about the trawler collision earlier this year?
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Well...It's Oct 29th and the fleet has just started to move to the ocean- three boats.  The balance have been trawling the Pamlico Sound for a good solid four months now.





You can see from the track line at 9:45 this morning that the Vickie II is hard at it-




The Vickie II, based on the address, is a Cooke Seafood trawler-




The Debra Lee appears to be an out-of-state trawler doing in NC waters what it can't do in Alabama waters-









The Lady Madison looks like a Brent Fulcher boat.  While I have picked this vessel up on AIS in the Pamlico since July, I could not ID it visually.  It looks to be a "new purchase" that still has all the paperwork updating on a re-name to the Lillie Bell...and maybe back to Lady Madison based on the document below. 

The trawler "Lillie Bell" is tracking on MMSI/AIS under it's old name the Lady Madison-  She's a big one at 85-feet drafting 13 ft...

Wow....protecting the "little boats" by allowing them to work the undesignated Primary and Secondary nursery areas of the Pamlico Sound.










Fulcher likes the name Lillie Belle-

You'll remember the Capt Carl that ran over the smaller boat in the Pamlico this summer.  The data on the Capt Carl and the Lady Madison gets confusing because both have been named the Lillie Belle.

Capt Carl-



Obviously the Capt Carl isn't the Lillie Belle anymore...













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Did any information ever come out about the collision?
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This morning an additional trawler has moved to the ocean- the Mary Elizabeth is trawling off Ocracoke.



 
The Mary Elizabeth is a 65-foot boat meeting the minimum requirement to be actively transmitting an AIS signal.

The vessel is a Scranton, NC based trawler-









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Originally posted by todobien todobien wrote:

Did any information ever come out about the collision?
 

Not that I ever saw.  I guess that's going to require a FOIA request to the Coast Guard.  The "fake news" media in Coastal NC has no interest in reporting the news- only selling an agenda.


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also... yesterday and today, there are two industrial trawlers transmitting on AIS working the beach out of Beaufort Inlet, both were in the Pamlico in the last two weeks.

The Jonathan Ryan and the Catherine Lane are two of Brent Fulcher's trawlers-









I'm not sure what the following means, but the Jonathan Ryan was re-classified in February to a "fish processing vessel"-




While the Catherine Lane is registered as a "commercial fishing vessel"-




What is interesting is that the Catherine Lane has an active SPA permit, while the Jonathan Ryan allowed it's permit to expire.  The SPA permit is a federal license for the EEZ waters in the South Atlantic Penaeid Shrimp Fishery.




The Jonathan Ryan had an active SPA permit in  2017-








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People-  Shrimp trawling in NC is big business. How profitable?  There are a lot of questions about that.  For the vessel, maybe not so much.  For the few dealers "adding value", probably so.

What everyone needs to understand is the ties NC shrimping has to the highly profitable and fast consolidating Northeast scallop fishery.  The NC shrimp trawl fishery keeps support personnel working and keeps crews together for the scallop and fluke (Summer flounder) fisheries.   The players in both have a lot of "scallop money" to spend to keep the large industrial trawlers working the important undesignated nursery areas like the Pamlico Sound.


Newport News, Virginia-based vessel operator Greg Fulcher has bought a scallop boat and license from Oceans Fleet Fisheries for $7 million, in the latest example of big money being spent in the US sector.

"Anybody looking to pay that sort of money is likely to be looking at consolidation," said one source from the US scallop industry in June about the price level being paid.

"With the consolidation moves, with Cooke too entering the frame now, it's looking quite corporate with consolidation," he said. "These moves have inflated prices; boat owners are loving it, a few years ago a boat was worth $3 or $3.5m - now its five, six or $7m."

The deal from Fulcher is the latest of a series of recent transactions in the US scallop sector.

In June Glenn Cooke, co-founder of the Canada-based salmon farming company that bears his family name, emerged as the latest investor eyeing consolidation in the US scallop sector, after a deal for Wanchese Fish Company gave the Cooke family control over eight US scallop vessels and licenses and two licenses in Argentina.

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2015/08/06/fulcher-family-owned-processor-may-be-beneficial-in-future/

Greg Fulcher hit US scallop sector headlines recently by paying $7 million to secure the fishing vessel Alaska, complete with permit, from New Bedford, Massachusetts-based Oceans Fleet Fisheries.

However, he is far from the only Fulcher in the seafood business. Three siblings and an uncle all own scallops boats, while his sister is manager of Bay City Crab, in North Carolina.

Chris Fulcher, Greg's uncle, owns five full-time scallop boats, while his brother Brent has three full-time vessels, and five scallopers: a single one-dredge full-time, and four part-timers.


What is absolutely ironic and maddening is that conservation measures more than twenty years ago off the Georges Bank (a trawling prohibition to protect cod and flounder) is preventing reasonable and prudent conservation measures today to protect critically important strategic habitat nursery areas in the Pamlico Sound estuary from unsustainable bycatch in the shrimp trawl industry.

http://oceana.org/blog/how-science-and-bit-luck-brought-atlantic-sea-scallops-back-brink


Isn't it unexpected/strange/unwise that successful management in one area prevents successful management in another because of the profitability in the first so no need for profitability in the second?  ...NC shrimp trawling acts as a placeholder for crews and support personnel keeping them in place for the lucrative scallop fisheries.

And the very people who most benefit from one are the biggest impediment for the other?  ...small mom-n-pop vessels having difficulty making a living at $2 shrimp.  The level of spot, croaker, blue crab and weakfish bycatch creates an eco-system based failure affecting everything...but shrimp...and Georges Bank scallops.

Those that have excelled in wining the game in one, want it too complicated for others to win.  

Is the above not the definition of greed?

Would it not be better to have two success stories?  ...let's start by properly identifying and then classifying our critical habitat nursery areas per the requirements of state statute.




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It looks like this is the week that the 2018 shrimp trawling season will begin to come to an end in the Pamlico Sound. There are now more boats on the outside transmitting on AIS than in the Pamlico Sound -



Note:  I have to research the Sharon G II.  It may not be a trawler.




Note- The three boats guessed to be charter boats are the Handful, Full Timer and Little Shell.  I need to research the Handful and the Full Timer.  The Handful belongs to Daniels Trawl and Trading Company in Wanchese and may be a trawler. The Full Timer is a Manns Harbor boat belonging to Joseph Kevin Cole, Inc. The Little Shell is definitely a charter boat.  All three many be slinging kings on a commercial trip.

Note: Received a pm from a knowledgeable "insider" who follows this thread. His comments- 
Sharon G II is a longline boat.  Handful and Full timer are dropnet boats but they might be hook and lining for kings. Little Shell is a charter boat but they dropnet and hook and line commercial fish. None of them shrimp.




Two Hobucken, NC trawlers (Potter vessels) seen in the Pamlico this summer have moved off Pawley's Island, SC-




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After the post above, I received a call from a friend with a question.  

He asked- 
Are you seeing boats above Oregon Inlet towards the Virginia line?

Then he stated-  
You know Virginia doesn't allow trawling in the Chesapeake Bay.  The NC defenders of trawling will say the Chesapeake doesn't hold shrimp.  That's not true.  It does and the path those shrimp take South is well-known.  The trawlers will set up on NC's northern beaches to catch the Chesapeake Bay shrimp.  They could do the same thing in NC.  Those boats don't have to work the Pamlico Sound- they can catch them in the ocean.

That was Wednesday.

Look where the boats are on Friday-






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Here is another example of a large (88-feet) ocean going industrial commercial trawler that appears to have AIS/MMSI issues-

According to this article-

The USCG rescued a commercial fisherman on Tuesday night, Oct 30th- a crewmember was having a potential medical emergency and needed evacuation from the trawler Papas Girl-

A Coast Guard helicopter crew rescued a 63-year-old fisherman "who was reportedly showing symptoms of a heart attack" on a boat in the Pamlico Sound on the NC coast, according to a Coast Guard new release that included video of the rescue.

A crew member aboard the fishing boat “Papa’s Girl” alerted the Coast Guard by VHF-FM radio channel 16 about the man, according to the Coast Guard news release. The crew member radioed the Coast Guard at 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, the news release said.

The Coast Guard sent crews aboard a 47-foot lifeboat from Coast Guard Station Hatteras Inlet and an MH-60 Jayhawk helicopter from Air Station Elizabeth City, according to the release.

The rescuers moved the man onto the Coast Guard lifeboat “due to the fishing gear obstructions aboard Papas Girl,” the Coast Guard news release said.


I can't see where the vessel was transmitting a received AIS signal.

Let's look at the Papas Girl-




















Not once since July has the Papas Girl showed up on any tracking data in the Pamlico Sound.


How many more vessel are there operating in the Pamlico Sound not transmitting a received AIS signal per federal law for vessels 65-feet or greater in length?



The Papas Girl's sister ship the Chasity Brooke has been tracked in the Pamlico in a previous post-

Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

Originally posted by FLOUDERMN FLOUDERMN wrote:

They all don't tow 220ft of headrope it takes tremendous power to pull 4 55ft nets and all those boats you see don't have that kind of power alot do but alot don't either.So your numbers are no where near correct.


Let me know which of these 29 boats that are actively running AIS/MMSI and trawling the Pamlico Sound within the last 24-hours don't have the power to pull four 55-foot nets... standing by...

Vessel IDVessel NamePermitMail RecipientAddressCityStateZip CodeEffective DateExpiration DateMMSI#Length Feet 
604116CAPT ALEXSPAWILLIAMS, LEE BLANDPO BOX 306SWANQUARTERNC27885-03066/1/20185/31/201936773049079 
617732JONATHAN RYANSPATRAWLER JONATHAN RYAN CO LLCPO BOX 3321NEW BERNNC28564-33219/28/20178/31/201836747837075 
547960LITTLE HOBOSPALEWIS, MARK STEVEN971 PIGOTT RDGLOUCESTERNC28528-93684/11/20181/31/201936776982069 
623905CAPT JEFFSPATRAWLERS GARLAND AND JEFF INCPO BOX 306SWANQUARTERNC27885-03068/7/20177/31/201836698309069 
1121658CAPTAIN DAMIENSPAMISS MARILYN LOUISE INC4061 STARRATT RDJACKSONVILLEFL32226-13312/1/20181/31/201936683896085 
1122566LILLIE BELLE (Capt Carl)SPAG & C SCALLOP FISHERIES INCPO BOX 250ORIENTALNC28571-02506/18/201812/31/201936712075072 
634816CAPT PHILLIPSSPAPHILLIPS, JAMES CLYDEPO BOX 891SWANSBORONC28584-08912/9/201812/31/201836745737066 
1040383BRIDGOT DENISESPAESTHER JOY INC48 WATER STHAMPTONVA23663-17182/5/20181/31/201936746826078 
909599MISS KAYDENSPAMISS KAYDEN LLC990 CALLISON RDORIENTALNC28571-130010/1/20179/30/201836766984075 
546654CAPT NATHANSPAWILLIAMS, LEE BLANDPO BOX 306SWANQUARTERNC27885-03066/1/20185/31/201936773046079 
1038900BALD EAGLE IISPAFISHERMANS WHARF FILET INC48 WATER STHAMPTONVA23663-17181/5/201812/31/201836692056079 
1091811CHASITY BROOKESPACHASITY BROOKE LLCPO BOX 250ORIENTALNC28571-02502/1/20181/31/2019367705010105 
571255CAPT RALPHSPAROANOKE FISH COMPANY INC5897 US HIGHWAY 64MANNS HARBORNC27953-944211/1/201710/31/201836714303074 
689213SHAWNA LUCILLESPATLG TRAWLERS INC10871 GA HIGHWAY 99DARIENGA31305-34355/24/20178/31/201836800007066 
1026244PACIFICSSPADELORES OF WANCHESE INC48 WATER STHAMPTONVA23663-17184/1/20183/31/201936702061074 
1060577LADY SAMAIRASPAWILLIAMS, SAMMIE EUGENE200 MAIN STSWANQUARTERNC27885-97006/26/20184/30/201936717211079 
606639PALMETTO PRIDESPAREAVES, CAMERON LATEN17 QUAIL RIDGE CIR NBEAUFORTSC29906-90271/25/201812/31/201833823034666 
917630LADY KIMBERLYSPAPITTMAN, KENNETH RAY SR314 ROYAL RDBEAUFORTNC28516-65721/9/20187/31/201836743591069 
1069510MCKENZIESPATRAWLER NEW HOPE INCPO BOX 100HOBUCKENNC28537-01008/1/20178/31/201836697386077 
1029895BIRDIE PSPATRAWLER CAPT ALFRED INCPO BOX 100HOBUCKENNC28537-01007/1/20186/30/201936710794078 
1056576MICAH BELLSPACAPT GASTON LLCPO BOX 3321NEW BERNNC28564-33218/1/20177/31/201836752146079 
615409HANNAH JAESPAWHITE, GEORGE EDWARD III8 CRYSTAL STSEABROOKSC29940-36041/1/201812/31/201833819969466 
615565MISS KIRKSPAMISS KIRK INC105 SWEETBRIAR RDWASHINGTONNC27889-92294/1/20183/31/201936714893078 
 Capt Lee        793372574 
 Wanda Gail        36800496066 
 Lillie Jane        36800856066 
 Capt Vern        36772806066 
 Lady Madison        36779055095 
 Sheila Rene        36709514078 
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I understand that the letter referenced below has been mailed with no USCG reply received as of yet-





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Monday, November 5th-

Mixed bag- inside and on the beach of the big industrial trawlers


















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Today-Tuesday, Nov 6th....

Three more trawlers have joined the fleet-

Micah Bell
Capt Garland
Lillie Jane




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People...AGAIN...shrimp trawling in NC is about protecting the business interests of a few BIG dealers who are depressing the price of shrimp at the dock and making profits at the wholesale level by "adding value".  It is about keeping crews of dealer owned industrial trawlers together for the highly lucrative Northeast flounder and scallop fisheries.

Trawling in critical habitat nursery areas (undesignated nursery areas) is NOT about protecting the small commercial fisherman "making a living".













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Chuck's motion sounds like it is based on safety concern, citing the collision in the opening sentence. But, I would think that motion could also stand on its own as a regulatory oversight issue.

What is the possible penalty for not complying with the AIS requirement? 
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Originally posted by Glacierbaze Glacierbaze wrote:

Chuck's motion sounds like it is based on safety concern, citing the collision in the opening sentence. But, I would think that motion could also stand on its own as a regulatory oversight issue.

What is the possible penalty for not complying with the AIS requirement? 
 

We have several cases above of inaccurate MMSI data transmissions.  Those violations can be assessed a FCC penalty of up to $16,000 per incident-

Penalties for Use of Inaccurate MMSIs Use of inaccurate MMSIs is a violation of FCC rules, with potential impact upon safety of life and property.  Improper use of an MMSI with AIS hinders its usefulness as a navigation tool for collision avoidance, and decreases the Coast Guard’s awareness of vessels in the maritime domain, especially vessels approaching U.S. ports.  Violators may be subject to the penalties authorized by the Communications Act, including monetary penalties as high as $16,000 for each violation.7  Your radio equipment may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. Government.


Failure to ensure proper/accurate broadcast signal carries a maximum fine of $25,000

Further, AIS is only as good as the information it broadcasts, therefore, users must ensure it is broadcasting accurately and properly maintained. The Coast Guard has noticed that many AIS users are not doing so, some have not properly installed or programmed their AIS nor are many being maintained up-to-date. Both the Coast Guard and International Maritime Organization have Guidelines to assist AIS users in this regard, both of which we encourage you to read and follow; failure to do so could subject a person to civil penalties not to exceed $25,000. The maximum penalty for a false distress or a hoax is ten years in prison, a $5,000 civil fine, $250,000 criminal fine, and restitution of Coast Guard response costs.



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Today- Wednesday, Nov 7 two more large trawlers are transmitting a received AIS/MMSI signal-

The Addiction and the Capt Ralph.

Capt Ralph has been discussed here in several posts.  It was one of the trawlers involved in the federal investigation for illegal striped bass harvest off Oregon Inlet.

North Carolina Commercial Fisherman Pleads Guilty to Illegally Harvesting and Selling Atlantic Striped Bass

WILMINGTON – The United States Attorney’s Office announced that today in federal court, JAMES RALPH CRADDOCK,71, of Manns Harbor, North Carolina, pleaded guilty to federal charges regarding the illegal harvest and sale of Atlantic Striped Bass from federal waters off the coast of North Carolina in 2010.

According to information in the public record, in February 2010, a Special Agent with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) received information that commercial trawlers were illegally fishing for Atlantic Striped Bass in federal waters off the coast of North Carolina.  Since 1990, there has been a ban on harvesting Atlantic Striped Bass from the United States’ Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), which includes waters located three to 200 miles seaward of the U.S. coastline.  Upon receiving the information, NOAA engaged the assistance of the U.S. Coast Guard.  A single patrol vessel in the area intercepted one of 17 commercial trawlers in the EEZ, the fishing vessel Lady Samaira, boarded the vessel and found 173 Atlantic Striped Bass.  The captain later admitted to taking the fish from the EEZ.

Given the other commercial trawlers in the same area, NOAA conducted an analysis of electronic data and written reports from those vessels.  Based on its review, NOAA determined that during the North Carolina 20-day ocean trawl season in January/February 2010, CRADDOCK, then Captain of the 74-foot commercial fishing vessel Capt Ralph, harvested over 12,000 pounds of Atlantic Striped Bass.  Further analyses revealed that between February 1, 2010, and February 4, 2010, CRADDOCK, harvested 1,750 pounds of Atlantic Striped Bass from the EEZ, with an estimated fair-market retail price of approximately $14,000, which he sold to a dealer in Wanchese, North Carolina.  CRADDOCK sent an e-mail to another vessel through the Capt Ralph’s vessel monitoring system and admitted to catching the Atlantic Striped Bass south of Buoy No. 8.  Bodie Island Lighted Buoy No. 8 is located 6.5 nautical miles from shore, in the EEZ.  The vessel monitoring system data from the Capt Ralph further corroborated the illegal harvesting of the fish.  CRADDOCK then made false statements to NOAA, concealing the true location of the harvest in his federal vessel trip reports.







While the federal violations resulted in-
  • Probation from fisheries activities for a total of 38.5 years. The average probation sentence was 3 years. The maximum sentence was 5 years.
Those federal sentences with fisheries activities "probation" have ZERO effect on activities engaged in within NC sovereign waters.

NOAA Law Enforcement Uncovers Illegal Harvesting Scheme: An Infographic

October 31, 2018

NOAA's Office of Law Enforcement uncovers a conspiracy ring that illegally harvested Atlantic striped bass. This infographic outlines the facts of the investigation.

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Two Special Agents from NOAA's Office of Law Enforcement spent more than 15,000 hours investigating an illegal fishing scheme that was operating off of the coast of North Carolina. Thirty co-conspirators were part of the illicit activity, but only 12 subjects were charged and sentenced in connection to this case, which saw 52 charges in 13 indictments. 

The 12 subjects that were prosecuted for illegally harvesting 31,306 pounds of Atlantic striped bass in 2009 and 102,296 pounds in 2010. The annual trawl quota for North Carolina is only 160,160 pounds, which means the illegal harvesting of this species reduced the quota available to be caught by honest fishermen. 

The sentencing of the 12 subjects collectively resulted in:

  • The forfeiture of four vessels. The U.S. Attorney’s Office initially sought forfeiture of 7 vessels. Ultimately, 4 were forfeited and substitute assets in the amount of $124,000 were collected and paid to the U.S. Marshals Service.
  • Restitution amounting to $1.23 million. The most egregious conspirator was ordered to pay $653,795. All restitution was paid to the U.S. Treasury.
  • Probation from fisheries activities for a total of 38.5 years. The average probation sentence was 3 years. The maximum sentence was 5 years.
  • 850 hours of community service. Seven of the 12 conspirators received community service, while three were individually sentenced to 6 months of home confinement.

 

Last updated by Office of Law Enforcement on October 31, 2018




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This post is a two week update for the weeks of Nov 12 and Nov 19(Thanksgiving Week)-

For the week of Nov 12th is was a mixed bag with some boats still in the Pamlico and others on the beaches-






Below is a good example of how the NCDMF/MFC fails to protect strategic habit areas as required under statute.  

For those of us that routinely fish the Cape Lookout area, we know the importance of the area around the Dead Tree Hole to juvenile spot, croaker, weakfish (gray trout) and whiting (sea mullet).

This area needs proper classification and protection.




While nominated for SHA in the last CHPP (Coastal Habitat Protection Plan), it didn't get selected.



The photo below was one that I took of juvenile finfish that I dip netted from a long line of floating dead discards from the shrimp trawl fishery in the area of the Dead Tree Hole-







Today Nov 19th, Thanksgiving week-

The boats have definitely found the Chesapeake Bay shrimp moving down the beach...I wonder how may spot and croaker are also moving down the beach?



 
There are still a few boats in the Pamlico, a couple off Hatteras Inlet and a group fishing off Beaufort Inlet-




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You'll notice in the ocean effort above that it stops just short of the Virginia/NC state boundary line.

The screenshot below of the Bald Eagle 2 zooms in on the effort just South of the Virginia line-



Why do the trawlers not cross the Virginia state boundary line?

Are there not shrimp in Virginia?

Obviously there are shrimp in Virginia and the industrial otter trawl fleet knows this.  That is why they position themselves along the well known fall migration travel corridor of Virginia shrimp along the Northern Outer Banks' beaches.

Virginia banned otter trawls within state waters (inside and outside to three miles) in 1995...except for a very limited ocean fishery opened (rarely) by temporary rule-

VIRGINIA MARINE RESOURCES COMMISSION
"PROHIBITION ON THE USE OF TRAWLS IN VIRGINIA'S PORTION OF THE TERRITORIAL SEA"
REGULATION 4 VAC 20-420-10 ET SEQ.

PREAMBLE

This regulation establishes a prohibition on the use of trawls in Virginia's portion of the Territorial Sea. The use of trawls or similar devices is prohibited in all the waters under Virginia's jurisdiction by §28.2-314 of the Code of Virginia; however, §28.2-315 of the Code of Virginia grants the Marine Resources Commission authority to permit trawling and control the area, manner, method, size and season of catch during certain times in certain areas of Virginia's portion of the Territorial Sea. The Marine Resources Commission has elected not to exercise this authority at this time, and by this regulation affirms its intent to keep Virginia's portion of the Territorial Sea closed to trawling.

This regulation is promulgated pursuant to authority contained in §§28.2-201 and 28.2-315 of the Code of Virginia. This regulation amends previous Regulation 450-01-0055, which was adopted March 7, 1989 and effective July 1, 1989. The effective date of this regulation is April 13, 1995.

4 VAC 20-420-10. Purpose.

The purpose of this chapter is to provide for the conservation of Virginia's summer flounder stocks and stocks of other species utilizing the Territorial Sea as a migratory pathway to spawning grounds and nursery areas.

4 VAC 20-420-20. Prohibition.

It shall be unlawful for any person to operate any trawl net or to take or catch fish, crabs or shellfish by use of trawl net within the area between the baseline from which the Territorial Sea is measured and three nautical miles seaward to the Three Nautical Mile Line.

4 VAC 20-420-30. Penalty.

As set forth in § 28.2-314 of the Code of Virginia, use of a trawl or similar device in the waters of the Commonwealth of Virginia, unless specifically permitted by the Marine Resources Commission as provided in § 28.2-315 of the Code of Virginia, shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor.


...but, the state is re-examining the ocean portion of the ban-


Obviously Virginia understands the highly detrimental impact of 220-feet of headrope dragging behind large wooden doors scarfing the bottom-

In other states, Greer said shrimp trawlers use about a 220-ft. net to catch the shrimp, but the men with the experimental permit are only using a 16-ft. beam trawl equipped with a bycatch reduction device.


Why do we let Virginia based trawlers do in NC waters what they can't do at home!!!

§ 113-170.1.  Nonresidents reciprocal agreements. Persons who are not North Carolina residents are not eligible to obtain licenses under the provisions of this Article except as provided in this section. Residents of jurisdictions that sell commercial fishing licenses to North Carolina residents are eligible to hold North Carolina commercial fishing licenses under the provisions of G.S. 113-168.2. Licenses may be restricted in terms of area, gear, and fishery by the Commission so that the nonresidents are licensed to engage in North Carolina fisheries on the same or similar terms that North Carolina residents can be licensed to engage in the fisheries of other jurisdictions. The Secretary may enter into reciprocal agreements with other jurisdictions as necessary to allow nonresidents to obtain commercial fishing licenses in the State subject to the foregoing provisions. (1997-400, s. 5.1; 1998-225, s. 4.20; 2001-213, s. 2.)



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It looks like that the week of Nov 26, 2018 is the week that all the large industrial trawlers are no longer in the Pamlico Sound.

AIS tracking shows the Pamlico Sound fleet documented in this thread to be fishing the ocean beaches spread between Cumberland Island, GA to the NC/VA state line.


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Update for the week of Dec 3rd-  starting South and working North

Two of the Hobucken based Potter boats are still working the ocean off Charleston-





The Catherine Lane is working off Holden Beach-




BOY did this one surprise me.  I hadn't quite visualized in my mind a trawler this big working the ICW.  Anybody have a visual on this SC based trawler working that area?  You'll remember this boat was working the Pamlico Sound hard back in the summer.





On Monday there wasn't much action off Shackleford Banks working the area once nominated as a Strategic Habitat Area- just two Hobucken based Potter boats




Moving up off Core Bank the Alabama based Debra Lee was still hard at it-




One of Brent Fulcher's boats and Ellis Leon Gibbs' Lady Samaira were working the beach off Pea Island.  You'll remember that it was the Lady Samaira that initiated the illegal Rock Fish investigation.


Upon receiving the information, NOAA engaged the assistance of the U.S. Coast Guard. A single patrol vessel in the area intercepted one of 17 commercial trawlers in the EEZ, (the fishing vessel Lady Samaira) and boarded the vessel. At the time of the boarding, the Lady Samaira was captained by Defendant Ellis Leon Gibbs, Jr.

 

When asked by the Boarding Team, GIBBS admitted that he was targeting Atlantic striped bass. When asked where he caught the fish, GIBBS showed the boarding team certain electronically-saved track lines from the vessel’s navigation computer. The track lines shown by GIBBS, however, were fishing tows he made in state waters (where the harvest of striped bass would have been lawful at the time) on February 13, 2009, almost a year prior to the February 9, 2010 boarding.

 

The Boarding Team counted 173 Atlantic striped bass, ranging in size from 36- to 41.5 inches in length, on the deck of the Lady Samaira. After completing its inspection, the Boarding Team allowed the Lady Samaira to proceed to port in Engelhard, North Carolina, where NOAA agents awaited to conduct the dockside investigation.




Up at the Va/NC state line, there was still a group of boats targeting the Southbound Chesapeake Bay shrimp-





By Thursday the Effort in the area of the Dead Tree Hole off Shackleford Banks had really picked up-




...and the Fulcher boat that was off Pea Island earlier in the week, joined in later that afternoon-




Again-  It's a shame that King Shrimp, driven by a harvest goal, has prevented the proper designations of our important estuarine nursery areas.  The area off Shackleford Banks is a key secondary nursery staging area for demersal offshore winter spawning fish like spot and croaker.  It also is critical habitat for juvenile weakfish as they stage to move offshore for the winter.  

The DMF through the CHPPs process has recognize that this area is strategic habitat...they have just failed to protect it.











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This thread should be enough evidence to shut down the whole mess. 


Some day - people will look back on this era the way that we now look back on the late 1800s and early 1900s.   Land animals and birds were wiped out as those in charge refused to interfere with profits.

Our marine resources are in terrible shape and the DMF loves continued harvest, our MFC is too passive and inept to act, and our legislature and governor loves the golden handshakes from the seafood industry.

I'd love to put all the idiots who push continued harvest into a boat and tell them that they can not come ashore until they can each catch a legal limit of flounder in the western pamlico using only a rod and reel.   

They'd probably never set foot on land again.






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Anyone seen a Carolina Parakeet lately?
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Today- Monday, Dec 10, 2018 NC is coping with the effects of Winter Storm Diego with 12" to 24" of snow in parts of Piedmont and Western NC.

At Atlantic Beach, it was rain over the weekend bringing about 2.5" with temps ranging from the low 40s to the low 60s.  The winds on Sunday reached a sustained 23mph with gusts to 41mph.  Today at 1:00pm, it is light rain, 43-degrees and the wind is North at 16mph.

There are only three trawlers transmitting an AIS signal on the beach from the Virginia to the SC line- The Hobucken based Potter vessel the Capt Potter, the Brent Fulcher trawler the Jonathan Ryan and the Oriental based Garland C Fulcher vessel the Perseverance.  

I looks like the Alabama based Debra Lee stopped trawling about sixteen hours ago and headed South.  I wonder if her stay in NC waters is over for the 2018 season?







Not a bad day to be on the water with a little rain gear-




You'll remember the Perseverance from this screen shot-



 

The Jonathan Ryan






The Capt Potter-





...and the Debra Lee




...visiting from Alabama-






I wonder if the Debra Lee, if heading towards home, is going to stop in Southport to "land" those NC shrimp per Rule?



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There was a little opportunity to prove a point that lined up nicely this afternoon.

The naysayers, deniers and deflectors have posted in the past that AIS isn't accurate-

Originally posted by FLOUDERMN FLOUDERMN wrote:

What part of my post did you not get that i said the AIS crap don't work half the time 
!!Fact i've been around those things since before they were required and i'm telling you they don't work 1/2 the time.They don't work more than they do just 1 boat last year we had to get 3 diffirent recievers during Scallop seasonOuch
 


Now I don't doubt for one minute that Floudermn has been on boats where the AIS didn't work.  I'm sure there are a lot of pieces of equipment on boats that don't work.  If the USCG was enforcing AIS compliance those "non-working" would probably work more often.

...back to the opportunity to show how accurate AIS can be-

This afternoon the Jonathan Ryan was moving East up the beach from Bogue Inlet...



It just so happens that the Bogue Inlet Fishing Pier at the end of Bogue Inlet Drive has a live surf cam.

Look who passed by-







There is real opportunity here through AIS tracking of time and location combined with video monitoring to identify bycatch issues for further study.











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Rick,
In looking at those boats you posted, they look more like the "ships" we see on the TV fishing show from Alaska-the "Deadliest Catch" that are fishing the Bering Sea.  Those boat are quite large, dwarfing the traditional shrimp boats seen locally nearby in Harkers Island.  The prop wash of these ships while dragging in the shallow Pamlico certainly must stir up much mud, independent of the 8 otter boards that are dragging along the bottom.  No wonder the Pamlico ecosystem is sick.

The hidden cost of inshore shrimping by industrial trawlers is massive and impacts the entire fishing industry, both commercial and recreational.  How to protect local fishermen and the environment is a tightrope act that has resulted in both fishermen and stocks falling to the bottom.  I just hope the new Director and future appointments to the MFC can walk the walk.  

Remember, in the best of years if ALL shrimp are kept in NC, it only supplies 25% of NC shrimp demands.  


The above comments are my personal opinion and do not represent those of any organizations or agencies I may be a member of.
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