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So...

Is the NCDMF protecting our critical habitat nursery areas?  Absolutely not!

Does the NCDMF know that CHPPs (Coastal Habitat Protection Plan) is a failure? Absolutely!

Are nursery area designations and CHPP reviews a smoke and mirrors game to deceive the public that state statute is being met?  Absolutely!

The DMF conducts an annual stratified trawl survey in the Pamlico Sound called the P195 Trawl Survey.  The survey is a random sampling of 1,502 grids (stations) in which each grid is one square nautical mile.

This is the P195 Trawl Survey Area-



The P195 Trawl Survey is used to establish the annual juvenile abundance index that NCDMF submits to the Atlantic State Marine Fisheries Commission under terms of the Interstate Jurisdictional Weakfish Fishery Management Plan.

Let's say that again- a trawl survey, the P195, is used to establish the annual JUVENILE abundance index for Weakfish (gray trout).

Where are juvenile weakfish found? In a nursery area.

How do you delineate a  nursery area of strategic importance?  By finding unique areas of preference.

NCDMF does a fantastic job on making the P195 data available to the public.  You can find it here-


1999 through 2016 data is available for both the Summer and Fall P195 surveys.  The fall survey is used to calculate the weakfish juvenile abundance index.

Let's look at ten years of weakfish CPUE (catch per unit of effort) that show the areas weakfish prefer-








It is very obvious where juvenile weakfish prefer- the deeper more open waters of the Pamlico Sound.

Juvenile weakfish particularly prefer the area north of Bluff Shoal.

Another factor used to delineate nursery areas is unique physical structure that could serve as an attractant to hold juveniles.

Do the deeper waters of the Pamlico Sound have such structure?  Yes- particularly north of Bluff Shoal-




...and deeper depths correlate with that sediment structure-




The RED line on the maps below shows Bluff Shoal-






Besides physical geological structures of depth and sediment composition there are two additional reasons that may contribute to the juvenile weakfish's abundance north of Bluff Shoal- the prevailing winds in late spring and summer and the Coriolis effect.  These effects could be driving larval transportation to settlement areas north of Bluff Shoal with higher salinity levels driven by those same effects-wind and gravitational force- being preferred habitat for weakfish.

Weakfish are batch spawners that spawn just inside the inlets on strong lunar tides.  Wind, tides and other gravitational forces push the eggs and larva across the sound for settlement in the shallow bays for initial development.



At thirty days of age (about 1-3/8 inches in length), the larva leave the protected bays for the deeper more open waters of the sound.






 APS response to the southwestward wind (one of the two prevailing wind directions during the spring and fall transition seasons) tells a similar story (Figures 4a and 4b). It causes a sea level pileup toward the western side of Albemarle Sound and the southwestern side of Pamlico Sound. Surface currents move downwind on the shallow shoals of Albemarle and northern Pamlico Sound while bottom currents move upwind in the deep channels. The two-layer gravitational circulation in southern Pamlico Sound appears to be significantly disrupted by the wind. While southwestward (downwind) surface currents cover most of southern Pamlico Sound, bottom currents are mostly pointed in the northeastward (upwind) direction.


(Note: APS = Albemarle-Pamlico Sound)

Despite the weak stratification, the mean circulation features a two‐layer gravitational circulation with speeds reaching several centimeters per second. Analysis of the depth‐integrated momentum budget shows a primary balance among the barotropic pressure gradient due to sea level slope, the baroclinic pressure gradient due to horizontal salinity gradients and stress divergence, as found in partially mixed estuaries. Therefore, the gravitational force rather than the wind stress is the main driver of the mean circulation in APS. In our view, this is a significant result and demonstrates that substantial gravitational circulation can develop in shallow and weakly stratified lagoonal estuaries. The magnitude of the mean current is consistent with the theoretical prediction ofHansen and Rattray [1965], suggesting that the classic estuarine theory provides a good framework to interpret the circulation dynamics in lagoonal estuaries. The two‐layer mean circulation can play an important role in the long‐term transport of nutrients, contaminants, and fish larvae in these estuarine systems [Paerl et al., 1998; Werner and Brain, 1999].


Do we allow allow trawling in these critically important primary and secondary nursery areas while juvenile weakfish are present?  Absolutely.

Did the recent CHPPs work in Region 2 identify important weakfish nursery areas?  Not really.




THE DUMBING DOWN of weakfish nursery areas- throwing them into the "River" species when the juveniles obviously prefer the "Sound".


...and it's not just Weakfish that prefer the open waters of the sound-

Atlantic Croaker





Summer Flounder

Blue Crab

Sea Mullet (southern kingfish)



What did CHPPs recommend?


Weakfish didn't get any nursery area protection.



No protections here-




487-pages of.....



...and for those keeping score see below.  The goalposts have moved with the recent DMF announcement that it will not longer use the terms Depleted, Concern, Viable, Recovering, Unknown. 




We must change 40-years of ongoing inherent management bias-





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Rick.. You are VERY Valuable to this Board.. PLEASE continue to post information & related RESEARCH  HERE!  something ABSOLUTLY NEEDS TO BE DONE!

I have a NOAA (fisheries survey) in My hot lil Hands... with a "return to sender address postage paid"..
I'm going to fill the survey out.. and PRINT every page posted in this thread..
Will it get "action"? I doubt it.. Though More eyeballs that read this the better..
I wonder if we can get a "coronated" effort to get the Fishing piers involved?
I have 7 down My way, in the Southeastern District.. I *wonder* if they would be interested in WHY "catches" and thus fishing is down? (INCOME)… Could they "ban" together in filing a "Class Action" based on Standing as Ray discussed? I would  think so!
BTW, I've about "givin up" on fishing surf & sand, as there's NOTHING to be caught! 
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Rick,
Just wondering where Winslow's historical mapping of NC oyster reefs in the Pamlico overlay on the maps.  
The above comments are my personal opinion and do not represent those of any organizations or agencies I may be a member of.
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Very damning information.  Even a dipstick like me gets it.
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Originally posted by chriselk chriselk wrote:

Rick,
Just wondering where Winslow's historical mapping of NC oyster reefs in the Pamlico overlay on the maps.  

I had this discussion earlier in the week with a well-respected biologist. His point was if we are truly concerned about water quality and oyster restoration that we should be prohibiting trawling in those historical oyster reef areas that Winslow mapped.  His point- "Left alone a cleared farm field will quickly return to forest."  This is impossible for the Pamlico Sound due to the magnitude and frequency of highly destructive bottom disturbing gears used in the trawl fisheries.



Learning from the Past: Old Maps Help Build A New Future For The Eastern Oyster

By KATHLEEN ANGIONE

In the age of online mapping services, paper maps may seem obsolete — but try telling that to Eugene Ballance, an Ocracoke fisherman who is transforming 118-year-old survey maps of Pamlico Sound into blueprints for restoring the Eastern oyster.

Using satellite mapping and sonar imaging technology, Ballance is modernizing a dozen maps created in 1886-1887 by Lt. Francis E. Winslow, a naval officer who surveyed the sound’s then-abundant oyster reefs.

The projections, or intersecting coordinate lines, on Winslow’s oyster maps are impeccable, says Ballance, who is also a mathematician. “They are better than anything that’s been done since then,” he insists.

Although Winslow’s projections remain accurate, the large, productive oyster beds he described are gone.

Eastern oysters (Crassostrea virginica) have declined steadily in Pamlico Sound for more than a century, mostly due to habitat destruction, water pollution and disease. The
disappearance of these “ecosystem engineers” — which filter water and provide habitat for dozens of aquatic creatures — is a trend Ballance and others in coastal North Carolina are trying to reverse.

To transform Winslow’s work, Ballance is using Geographic Information Systems (GIS), a computerized mapping program that combines thousands of data points from a certain place into “layers” of information. The result will be multi-layered, digital maps that show where oyster reefs once thrived and where they could likely thrive again — information that helps scientists and policymakers better focus restoration efforts and dollars.

Ballance received funding for the project from the N.C. Fishery Resource Grant Program (FRG), funded by the N.C. General Assembly and administered by North Carolina Sea Grant.

To get the thousands of data points required for each layer, Ballance begins by locating an oyster reef that appears on a scanned version of Winslow’s map. Next, he digitizes areas in the pixel coordinates of the scanned map. Ballance then projects this information to latitude and longitude coordinates using “control points,” or features on the map that remain in today’s surveyor databases.

After completing these steps, Ballance must field-check the new coordinate files. First, he transfers the files to a hand-held computer and verifies the coordinates using Global Positioning System (GPS) technology. GPS uses satellite signals to calculate exact positions of objects on earth. Then Ballance samples the area with a small, toothless scallop dredge to determine how much of the reef is left. Finally, he uses sonar imaging to take a picture of the sampled area.

REFORMING RESTORATION

Although the process is complicated, the results simplify choosing a restoration site, notes Jeffrey DeBlieu, director of The Nature Conservancy’s (TNC) Pamlico Sound Oyster Reef Restoration Project.

“It removes some of the guesswork about where we should be restoring oysters,” he says. And that’s a good thing, he adds, because restoration isn’t cheap.

In 2001, TNC received a multimillion-dollar grant from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to begin working in coastal systems. The North Carolina chapter of TNC received some of that grant to restore the Eastern oyster population in Pamlico Sound. The organization is cooperating with several partners, including the N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries (DMF) and North Carolina Sea Grant.

Before Ballance’s mapping project, site selection lacked a solid historical baseline. “But Gene’s work provides a very strong foundation for us to work from,” says DeBlieu. And the early results have already proved useful.

“We’ve utilized some of Gene’s information to do the first large-scale oyster sanctuary up in the Crab Hole area, between Oregon Inlet and Stumpy Point,” notes Craig Hardy, the DMF section chief for resource enhancement.

DMF and TNC also used Ballance’s data to help develop a sanctuary at Clam Shoal, located behind the southeast corner of Hatteras Island, and another in waters just north of Ocracoke Island.

The Clam Shoal and Crab Hole restoration sites are about 30 acres apiece, and each now contains numerous five- to six-foot-high oyster reefs built of limestone marl.

“It takes five or six years for a pile of limestone to become an oyster reef,” says DeBlieu. The new reefs are developing on schedule. Baby oysters, barnacles, fish and shrimp are already a regular sight, notes DeBlieu, who went scuba diving at Clam Shoal last summer and at Crab Hole in the fall.

“It’s not a beautiful place, like a coral reef,” he admits. “It’s kind of dirty and muddy and crummy looking — but that’s an oyster reef. It’s not real photogenic.”

The Pamlico Sound project will support additional reefs at each site next summer. The hope is that Clam Shoal and Crab Hole one day will be restored to large, continuous reefs similar to those documented by Winslow, says DeBlieu.

A SUPERIOR PIECE OF HISTORY

In 1998, Ballance was mapping sea grass beds near Ocracoke and Hatteras Inlet as part of another FRG project when he was inspired to apply GIS to Winslow’s oyster maps.

But it wasn’t until several years later that he met DeBlieu, who also had thought of applying GIS to Winslow’s maps. Pooling their collective resources and knowledge, Ballance and DeBlieu identified their first hurdle: obtaining the original maps.

Because each map is roughly the size of a large kitchen tabletop and hand-drawn on tracing cloth — “it’s like wax paper with fibers in it,” describes Ballance — they weren’t allowed to leave the N.C. Archives. Instead, state officials agreed to scan them at the Outer Banks History Center on Roanoke Island and give digital copies to Ballance and DeBlieu.

Archives technician Kelly Grimm scanned each chart in eight sections, making sure certain points on each of the scanned sections overlapped so she could “stitch” the digitized pieces back together. Just as in Winslow’s time, precision was critical: “If one section is off kilter, it throws the whole map off kilter,” she says.

Luckily, finding distinct points on the maps was fairly easy. In addition to Winslow’s meticulous drawings, he and his crew also left some personal touches behind.

“I can tell through the fine detail that different people worked on different projections,” says Ballance, noting subtle variation among handwritten letters and numbers.

Accidental details were equally distinct.

“You can see the stains on the maps where the men were working,” says DeBlieu, referring to the occasional ink smear.

After the maps were scanned successfully, Ballance received an FRG in 2003 and began applying GIS technology to Winslow’s work.

During the past two years, Ballance has spent countless hours checking, or “ground-truthing,” Winslow’s projections and determining how much of the historic oyster reefs remain.

Ballance has verified about a third of the area depicted on Winslow’s survey maps. The biggest documented reef measured 230 acres in continuous area, but now only exists in small patches. But no matter the current condition of a reef, Ballance is continually impressed by Winslow’s projections.

“I’m amazed every time I go to one of these beds and see that they could maintain that accuracy through the whole project,” he says.

Winslow and his crew probably worked from a sailing schooner for days on end, only going to shore for food and supplies, Ballance says. Winslow calculated the projections using horizontal sextant angles, measurements taken from three fixed, visible objects on the water that also were identifiable on a nautical chart.

“Without electronics, that was state-of-the art back then,” explains Ballance. And when he puts the projections on Winslow’s maps up against modern maps, Winslow remains superior. “They [Winslow’s maps] were doing better than my nautical chart!” exclaims Ballance.

WINSLOW’S BIGGER PLAN

But Winslow wasn’t surveying oyster reefs simply for historical record.

He had been hired by the state legislature to determine if Pamlico Sound contained enough oysters to support a commercial fishery. The oyster business already was booming in Maryland and Virginia’s Chesapeake Bay in the 19th century. North Carolina hoped similar economic gains could come from its waterways.

Almost immediately after completing the survey, Winslow retired from the Navy and started the Pamlico Oyster Company, appointing himself chief operating officer, according to Kathleen Carter, a historian at High Point University. He planned to sell areas near larger, more productive reefs as private leases. He designated the bigger reefs as “Public Grounds,” hoping they would provide spawning stock for nearby private leases.

When the survey results were released in 1888 confirming an abundance of oysters, it created what Carter calls an “oyster bonanza” in Pamlico Sound. Companies and private fishers from the crowded Chesapeake began arriving in droves. Sales of leases skyrocketed.

Some historians blame Winslow’s survey as the beginning of the end for North Carolina’s natural oyster reefs. But Ballance believes that’s a matter of perspective. “That’s like saying if someone had killed Christopher Columbus, then the New World never would have been discovered. It may have delayed it a few years, but that’s about all.”

Despite the economic gains from oysters in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, tensions escalated among local fishers and transients. By 1891, the state tightened its oyster harvesting laws, even authorizing the use of force to remove “oyster pirates,” a term for fishers from outside the state, notes Carter.

By 1892, Winslow had a severe public image problem. Many accused him of omitting details about the Public Grounds beds from his written survey reports. One senator from Hyde County said Winslow “defrauded North Carolina of its richest oyster beds,” according to Carter.

Some of Winslow’s survey reports appear questionable. In one report, Winslow wrote: “Another small unimportant bed lies between Ocracoke Island and Howard’s and dark’s Reef.”

The survey maps show that this “unimportant” reef indeed existed; yet nearby was the fifth largest oyster reef in the entire sound, notes Ballance. “He just sort of left that out.”

As suspect as the omission seems, Ballance points out that it may have had more to do with politics than personal greed. He cites one of Winslow’s survey reports from a November 1887 meeting with the state’s shellfish commission: “The fourth meeting of the board was held on November the 26th, and the areas, limits and locations of the Public Grounds of the Counties of Hyde and Carteret were determined.”

Despite his role as surveyor, Winslow didn’t have the final say on Public Grounds, contends Ballance. Whether or not the allegations were true, outside skepticism remained such that the Pamlico Oyster Company shut down in 1892. Winslow eventually retired to Connecticut, where he died in 1908.

BRINGING BACK THE OYSTERS

Today, there are no more political squabbles over the abundance of oysters in Pamlico Sound. Instead, tensions more likely are fueled by the declining stock.

In 2003. the amount of oysters commercially harvested barely reached 49,000 bushels, according to the DMF. That figure is considerably lower than the record 1.8 million bushels landed in 1902, the year many consider the peak of oyster harvesting in North Carolina.

Habitat loss, pollution, overharvesting and diseases like Dermo (Perkinsus marinus), a tiny parasite that kills oysters when they reach reproductive age, all have contributed to the decline.

“If we can bring a healthy oyster population back, it will benefit not only commercial harvest, but also habitat for other important finfish and crustaceans,” says Hardy.
Moreover, oysters play a critical role in the overall health of estuarine systems, adds DeBlieu. “Oysters aren’t simply to be dredged up and eaten,” he says.

As the Pamlico Sound Oyster Reef Restoration Project continues, Ballance’s GIS maps will help focus the restoration effort. “I think any oyster reef we build out there will be at a site based on Gene’s work,” says DeBlieu.

“It gives us another layer in our selection process,” concurs Hardy.

Once a potential restoration site is identified, scientists assess the area’s water quality, substrate and salinity. Sometimes they find healthy, natural oyster rock and try to expand that area by restoring adjacent sites, explains Hardy. At other times, they find only piles of old shells with some struggling spat, or baby oysters, attached. In those cases, scientists must weigh the odds for successful restoration against the overall restoration effort.

“The ultimate goal is to restore the resource,” says Hardy.

Reaching that goal may take decades, even centuries, but Ballance’s vision for Winslow’s maps elucidates the interim steps. The mathematician is more than happy to share the credit though:

“His [Winslow’s] party in the 1880s accomplished in two years a feat that has yet to be equaled to this day, even with all our electronic gadgetry,” says Ballance. “It failed in its original purpose of promoting the oyster industry in North Carolina, but may — in this century — succeed in reversing the decline in our remaining oyster habitat.”



Winslow's work-

http://books.google.com/books?id=YXNGAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA106&ots=cUti7Ae3i_&dq=Report%20of%20the%20Waters%20of%20North%20Carolina%20with%20reference%20to%20their%20Possibilities%20for%20Oyster%20Culture&pg=PP7#v=onepage&q=Report%20of%20the%20Waters%20of%20North%20Carolina%20with%20reference%20to%20their%20Possibilities%20for%20Oyster%20Culture&f=false


Winslow certainly didn't mind doing a little "insider trading".  He might not have been the first, but he was certainly one of the first to be paid by the state of NC to help the resource while working towards the end goal of personal gain.

How many oyster reefs did Winslow conveniently miss mapping for that personal gain- looking after his own future financial interest- the Pamlico Oyster Company?

Sound familiar!

We have our paid scientists today at several of the state's public research universities being paid to study oysters while they are privately leasing acres to build for-profit mariculture operations.  I'm hearing through the grape-vine that some of these state employees are getting free or low-cost "excess" seed stock from the university research programs for their private oyster leases.

We have NCDMF staff (some in enforcement) with active commercial fishing licenses.

We have way too many persons charged with the mission of "ensuring sustainable marine and estuarine fisheries and habitats for the benefit and health of the people of North Carolina" that have personal financial conflicts of interest in continued unsustainable harvest or forcing mariculture expansion at a pace that prevents preserving public trust rights.


Ballance received funding for the project from the N.C. Fishery Resource Grant Program (FRG), funded by the N.C. General Assembly and administered by North Carolina Sea Grant.


You "research types"- you know who you are- help me out here!  Where do we find this great report.  I'm a pretty good "finder" and I can't find it.  It almost looks like SeaGrant is trying to hide it.

Below is the only report that returns on a library search using Balance, Eugene as the author-




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Redfisher ..... Thumbs Up I agree. It is time to change the way this state manages its coastal fisheries.
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As has been mentioned before on here the bad thing is NCDMF and ASFMC ignore work done by Rick since he's not a fish bio. No fish researcher will touch it since they fear being blackballed by DMF. Eventually someone will and the info will be published.
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In a review of potential impacts of fishing gear on habitat in the Gulf of Mexico, Barnette (1999) ranked impacts of otter trawls on SAV as
significant.
http://www.asmfc.org/uploads/file/gearImpactsReport.pdf

If water were clear enough to reach bottom would SAV grow in deeper water than now? - yes

If oysters recover in natural beds would water be clearer? - yes

If oysters and SAV recovered to historic distribution would fishery productivity be greatly enhanced? - yes

What are the effects of otter trawls?  They prevent oyster and grass re-colonization by physical disturbance (scouring effect) and by increasing turbidity.

If grass beds and oyters were recovered would there be more fish and clearer water?- yes

Are otter trawls working over current SAV and established oyster rock? - no, that bottom has long since been scoured.

Are otter trawls preventing re-colonization of historically important areas with oysters and grass? - likely



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I passed these three South Carolina trawlers traveling together in the ICW yesterday on their way from the Pamlico Sound heading south.  

Why do we let South Carolina boats do here what NC boats can't do in SC-trawl inside our inlets?

§ 113-170.1.  Nonresidents reciprocal agreements.

Persons who are not North Carolina residents are not eligible to obtain licenses under the provisions of this Article except as provided in this section. Residents of jurisdictions that sell commercial fishing licenses to North Carolina residents are eligible to hold North Carolina commercial fishing licenses under the provisions of G.S. 113-168.2. Licenses may be restricted in terms of area, gear, and fishery by the Commission so that the nonresidents are licensed to engage in North Carolina fisheries on the same or similar terms that North Carolina residents can be licensed to engage in the fisheries of other jurisdictions. The Secretary may enter into reciprocal agreements with other jurisdictions as necessary to allow nonresidents to obtain commercial fishing licenses in the State subject to the foregoing provisions. (1997-400, s. 5.1; 1998-225, s. 4.20; 2001-213, s. 2.)

 

F/V Palmetto Pride...one of the vessels that I've be tracking in the above posts-




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F/V Happy Jack







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...and this one today-

F/V San-Dia








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United States v. Joseph Howard Williams, No. 4:15-CR-2-BO

 

JUDGMENT as to Joseph Howard Williams (1) - Count 1 - 3 years PROBATION - 100 hours community service - Restitution in the amount of $69,045.43 - Special assessment of $100.00 - Counts 2, 3 and 4 are Dismissed. Signed by District Judge Terrence W. Boyle on 8/23/2017. (Downing, L.) (Entered: 08/25/2017)


Joseph Howard Williams below was a Brunswick, Georgia resident at the time of his conviction above.  He was the captain on the F/V Jo Ann B, which is a Swanquarter based trawler and Mr. Williams is the president of Jo Ann B Inc of Swanquarter.

Vessel IDVessel NamePermitMail RecipientAddressCityStateZip CodeEffective DateExpiration Date
508901JO ANN BSPAJO ANN B INC66 3RD STSWANQUARTERNC27885-93845/1/20184/30/2019

JoAnn B has dropped off the data list for tracking...more research on that one...new boat name...new llc?


Found it!  Showed up last week.  Not Swanquarter based but a Norfolk based trawler with a NC LLC.



 

Vessel ID Vessel Name Permit Mail Recipient Address City State Zipcode Effective Date Expiration Date
508901 JO ANN B SPA JO ANN B INC 66 3RD ST SWANQUARTER NC 27885-9384 5/1/2018 4/30/2019





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...and one more South Carolina boat doing in NC waters what NC boats can't do in SC waters...and for the RECORD-these SC boats can't do this at home either.

§ 113-170.1.  Nonresidents reciprocal agreements.

Persons who are not North Carolina residents are not eligible to obtain licenses under the provisions of this Article except as provided in this section. Residents of jurisdictions that sell commercial fishing licenses to North Carolina residents are eligible to hold North Carolina commercial fishing licenses under the provisions of G.S. 113-168.2. Licenses may be restricted in terms of area, gear, and fishery by the Commission so that the nonresidents are licensed to engage in North Carolina fisheries on the same or similar terms that North Carolina residents can be licensed to engage in the fisheries of other jurisdictions. The Secretary may enter into reciprocal agreements with other jurisdictions as necessary to allow nonresidents to obtain commercial fishing licenses in the State subject to the foregoing provisions. (1997-400, s. 5.1; 1998-225, s. 4.20; 2001-213, s. 2.)



Vessel ID Vessel Name Permit Mail Recipient Address City State Zipcode Effective Date Expiration Date
587877 HENRY EARL SPA HURLEY, PAMELA SUE 217 GREENWAY DR COWPENS SC 29330-9776 4/16/2018 10/31/2018





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Tonight- Monday, August 20, 2018 there are 21-trawlers in the Pamlico Sound actively transmitting a AIS/MMSI signal that is being received-




Jonathan Ryan
Capt Lee
Little Hobo
Wanda Gail II
Lillie Jane
Capt Carl (Lillie Belle)
Capt Phillips
Bridgot Denise
Miss Kayden
Lady Madison
Bald Eagle II
Capt Ralph
Shawna Lucille
Pacifics
McKenzie
Birdie P
Caressa Mae
Miss Lewis
Tamara Alane
Vickie II
Little Bit

BOLO for the Wahine....the vessel has gone DARK since Saturday!




The F/V Wahine was at the dock unloading or waiting to unload the Friday afternoon/evening of Aug 17th, 2018 in Oriental with many of the vessels above.



The Wahine has been a summer time regular in Oriental for many years-


The WAHINE gets around...I do believe that is Silver Lake at Ocracoke-




The WAHINE...another South Carolina Trawler doing in NC waters what it can't do at home in SC...trawl inside the inlets in the primary and secondary nursery areas for gray trout, croaker, spot, blue crab, summer and southern flounder, etc....

Vessel ID Vessel Name Permit Mail Recipient Address City State Zipcode Effective Date Expiration Date
620972 WAHINE SPA RACINE, SYLVAN PIERRE JR PO BOX 735 MCCLELLANVLE SC 29458-0735 7/17/2018 6/30/2019




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Another years class of juvenile weakfish, croaker, and spot are being destroyed.


The comms, the ruling politicians, and the DMF are all smiling.   


This state is sick.  
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Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

BOLO for the Capt Ben.  I passed it yesterday heading towards the Neuse in Adam's Creek.  I wasn't getting an AIS/MMSI signal and MarineTraffic doesn't show an active signal this morning...probably still working out the bugs in a few sea trials on the Pamlico...

You'll remember the Capt Ben from this thread-

Here is a photo that I took yesterday in Adam's Creek-





Here's a little more info on the build for those interested-  nice size boat at  68-Feet.






The Capt Ben is tied to Millis Seafood Company in Sneads Ferry. 

You might have seen this article about Nancy Millis Edens with her speaking out against license changes-


Mrs. Edens served as an AC member and Chairman on the 2015 Shrimp FMP-







I saw the Capt Ben again yesterday heading down Adam's Creek towards the Neuse...still not actively running a AIS/MMSI signal

 
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I hope everyone made it through Florence with minor issues and most of all- safe.  I've talked with several on the board since and thankfully all have been safe with repairable damage from wind and trees, and water intrusion from damage by both.  My thoughts and prayers are with everyone's recovery and safety.   


Let's talk about the accuracy of AIS...

Post Hurricane Florence...due to lost buoys and markers and/or to better mark the channels of Hatteras Inlet and Beaufort Inlet for general transportation and emergency relief, the federal government either positioned new buoys with AIS transmitters and/or attached AIS transmitters to existing buoys and markers.


AtoN (Aid to navigation)  

It appears they have these stuck all the way around the Knuckle to what looks like WR6 (the Shad Boat).



This shows the accuracy of AIS- a close-quarters around the clock navigation aid








There's a heck of a lot of transportation activity post storm-

Even four shrimp trawlers have started back working- three in the Pamlico Sound and one off the beach of Core Banks.

1) Capt Ralph
2) Bald Eagle II
3) Unidentified...guessing it to the Pacifics based on past observations of this vessel
4) Vickie II





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It's pretty nasty if they are trawling in the flood waters.

The DMF is always closing shellfish harvest due to fecal coliform counts but apparently they don't care about contaminated shrimp.


The crap (human, pig, chicken, etc) and pollutants are extremely high right now in the Pamlico and even the nearshore ocean.

Shrimp ON!!!!!DeadDeadDead


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Originally posted by bakesta bakesta wrote:

It's pretty nasty if they are trawling in the flood waters.

The DMF is always closing shellfish harvest due to fecal coliform counts but apparently they don't care about contaminated shrimp.


The crap (human, pig, chicken, etc) and pollutants are extremely high right now in the Pamlico and even the nearshore ocean.

Shrimp ON!!!!!DeadDeadDead



This is coming from an internationally recognized microbiologist.

He is suggesting the you should not eat the scavengers (shrimp) from such waters.

If you must consume, make sure you cook them well and wash your hands well after preparation, just as you would do with chicken.
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Can’t imagine eating anything out of those waters anytime soon
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I wonder if the NC Ag Consumer Services will be promoting "fresh
Local Shrimp" through their Got to Be NC program at all the State Farmers Markets after issuing this to local farmers-

Where is NCDMF on this? Shrimp On!

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
FRIDAY, SEPT. 21, 2018NTACT:Anita MacMullan, director
NCDA&CS Food and Drug Protection Division
919-819-7176
Flooded crops cannot be used for human food

NCDA&CS, NCSU to help farms divert crops to animal feed with proper testing
RALEIGH – Farmers whose crops were flooded by Hurricane Florence face not only the prospect of lower yields and loss of quality, but also the reality that those crops cannot be used for human food.

Crops and commodities exposed to floodwaters are considered adulterated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and cannot enter human food channels. They also cannot be used for animal feed unless they pass a testing protocol.

“Floodwater may contain sewage, harmful organisms, pesticides, chemical wastes or other substances,” said Agriculture Commissioner Steve Troxler. “Also, wet foods may grow mold, which can produce toxins that can harm humans and animals.”

The FDA guidance applies to all food crops, including:
Surface crops such as leafy greens, tomatoes and corn;
Underground crops such as peanuts and sweet potatoes;
Crops with a hard outer skin, such as watermelon and winter squash; and
Commodities such as grains, nuts, corn and similar products stored in bulk.

The FDA guidance applies to crops that were flooded with water from rivers, creeks or streams. Pooled water, or rainwater that has collected in the field, is different from floodwater and is not likely to contaminate field crops.

The N.C. Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services is collaborating with N.C. State Extension in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences at N.C. State University to help farmers determine safe uses for crops affected by Florence's flood waters.

Under an FDA process, farmers can submit a request to divert flooded crops or commodities to animal feed as long as they pass a testing protocol.

Before crops or commodities contacted by floodwaters can be used for animal feed, the farm must develop a diversion request detailing the process to assure the safety of the crop or commodity. Requests should be submitted to the NCDA&CS Food and Drug Protection Division.

To assist farmers submitting diversion requests, the department will provide testing at no cost to the farm. “This testing process can help farmers find alternative uses for their crops and commodities while maintaining confidence in the safety of our food supply,” Troxler said. “The department and the university are committed to helping in this recovery effort. We encourage farmers not to initiate any diversion actions until their request has been approved.”

Farmers should contact their local Cooperative Extension agents for further information and guidance. Contact information for local offices can be found at https://www.ces.ncsu.edu/

NCDA&CS Public Affairs Division, Andrea Ashby, Director
Mailing Address:1001 Mail Service Center, Raleigh NC 27699-1001
Physical Address: 2 West Edenton Street, Raleigh NC 27601
Phone: (919) 707-3001; FAX: (919) 733-5047




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LETTER TO INDUSTRY REGARDING FLOOD-IMPACTED CROPS AND COMMODITIES
The North Carolina Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services recognizes the significant impact to agribusiness due to flooding caused by Hurricane Florence. Many farms have crops in the field and/or commodities in storage that have been impacted by flood waters and we would like to offer the following information.

In order to properly assess how your farm may have been impacted, it is important to understand the difference between flood waters and pooled waters. Flood water can be distinguished from pooled water, as described below in guidance from US Food and Drug Administration (FDA):

“Flooding is the flowing or overflowing of a field with water outside a grower’s control. Pooled water (e.g., after rainfall) that is not reasonably likely to cause contamination of the edible portions of fresh produce is not considered flooding.”

FDA also offers the following guidance on crops and commodities exposed to flood waters:

“If the edible portion of a crop is exposed to flood waters, it is considered adulterated... and should not enter human food channels.

There is no practical method of reconditioning the edible portion of a crop that will provide a reasonable assurance of human food safety. Therefore, the FDA recommends that these crops be disposed of in a manner that ensures they are kept separate from crops that have not been flood damaged to avoid adulterating "clean" crops.

This applies to all food crops including:
• Surface crops such as leafy greens, tomatoes and corn;
• Underground crops such as peanuts and sweet potatoes;
• Crops with a hard-outer skin such as pumpkin, watermelon and winter squash; and
• Commodities such as grains, nuts, corn and similar products stored in bulk.

FDA has also provided the following guidance on the use of these crops and commodities in animal feed:

“The FDA reminds harvesters that crops harvested from flooded fields are often unacceptable because of contamination. Flood waters, which are different from pooled rain water, may contain sewage, pathogenic organisms, pesticides, chemical wastes, or other toxic substances. Mold growth is another serious concern for flood impacted crops intended for use in animal food. Some molds produce mycotoxins, which are toxic to certain animals and people.

Please take caution if you harvest crops from flood-impacted fields to ensure that they are kept separate from commodities that have not been exposed to flood waters to avoid adulterating the clean commodities.

In an effort to assist farmers in recovering from flood-related impacts, NCDA&CS is collaborating with N. C. State Extension in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS) at North Carolina State University to help farmers to determine safe uses for flood-impacted crops and commodities. While these products cannot be used for human food, FDA has established a process by which a request can be submitted to divert these products to animal feed provided that they pass a testing protocol.

Before crops or commodities contacted by flood waters can be used for animal feed, the farm must develop a diversion request detailing the process to assure the safety of diverted crops or commodities. Requests should be submitted to the NCDA&CS Food and Drug Protection Division. We encourage you to not initiate any diversion actions until your request has been approved. Please contact your local Cooperative Extension Agent for further information and guidance.

To assist those submitting diversion requests requiring sample testing, NCDA&CS will provide all testing at no cost to the farm. Please know that we are committed to helping in this recovery effort and appreciate your attention to the information provided in this letter.

Sincerely,
Anita MacMullan, Director
NCDA&CS, Food & Drug Protection Division

References:
CPG 675.100 Diversion of Contaminated Food for Animal Use
CPG Sec. 675.200 Diversion of Adulterated Food to Acceptable Animal Feed Use
CPG 675.300 Moisture Damaged Grain
FDA: https://ncdisaster.ces.ncsu.edu/2018/09/resources-for-animal-food-producers-in-flooded-areas/
NCSU Cooperative Extension

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Rick, where are these SC vessels "landing" their catch? NC or SC?
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Originally posted by Get Bowed Up Get Bowed Up wrote:

Rick, where are these SC vessels "landing" their catch? NC or SC?


I think that would depend on where in NC waters those "SC Vessels" are trawling. I'm sure there are SC vessels trawling in NC's waters of Brunswick and New Hanover counties that land shrimp in SC. The boats I've mentioned above in this thread are trawling for multiple week periods in the Pamlico Sound. Those landings are to NC dealers. These bigger out-of-state boats dock at Beaufort, Oriental, Silver Lake, etc. and run the same trawling pattern as NC 50+ foot vessels- a trip can be a Sunday to Friday. They don't return to their out-of-state home port over the weekend.

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This is the F/V Pacifics.  It spent most of the summer in the Pamlico Sound...a Cooke Seafood trawler-


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Today, Monday, Oct 1, 2018 the large industrial trawlers are back working the deeper, more open waters of the Pamlico Sound-

In the screenshot below I found-

Miss Kayden
Wanda Gail II
Capt Phillips
Pacifics
Linda Gayle
Bridget Denise
Capt Ralph
Bald Eagle 2
Birdie P
Caressa Mae
Lady Madison
Lillie Jane
Tamara Alane
Johnathan Ryan
Little Hobo
Vickie II
Capt Alex



If Dr. Noble is correct in her comments below about the effects of Hurricane Florence, why are these boats in the Pamlico?

If Dr. Noble is correct about shrimp being few and far between...What is the bycatch ratio for such trawling effort?

After a hurricane, those shrimp are blown out of estuaries and into deeper waters. They become difficult to find and the return on investment for going out to shrimp is simply not worth it, Noble said.


There are certainly fishermen affected by Hurricane Florence.  My prayers go out to them and their families.

As far as shrimping in NC where history shows 60% to 80% of shrimp are landed from the Pamlico Sound, it appears things are business as usual for the large industrial trawlers that land the majority of those shrimp.



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...as mentioned above several times, the AIS/MMSI data posted in this thread ONLY represents those boats actively transmitting a received signal.

There are boats below 65-feet in length that are not required by federal law to be equipped with a Class-B transmitter.

There are boats (65ft and >) required by federal law to not only have a Class-B transmitter, but to be actively transmitting a signal prior to leaving dock and until returning to dock, that are NOT COMPLIANT.

The F/V Lady Carolyn mentioned above as one of the "rockfish" boats is an example-

The Lady Carolyn hasn't transmitted a received signal since May 24th-


The vessel went into dry dock at Jarrett Bay on June 28th-



According to Hopkins' FB page, the Lady Carolyn started back shrimping on Aug 15th, rode out the storm in Fortescue Creek in the Pungo River and may have returned to shrimping this week.



Not once since May 24th has the F/V Lady Carolyn transmitted a received AIS/MMSI signal.

As you can see below, Jarrett Bay actually has a AIS/MMSI receiver on site actively transmitting positions of boats on the yard with transmitters that are still active while at the dock or in dry dock.


From the data above, the F/V Lady Carolyn appears to be a good example of a modern industrial trawler actively working the Pamlico Sound that is not transmitting a AIS/MMSI signal as required by federal law.




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Canada believes satellite tracking (AIS/MMSI data from satellites) can help their fisheries address IUU-   illegal, unreported and unregulated (IUU) fishing and other drivers of overfishing


Canada endorses Global Fishing Watch

The G7 meeting made clear their commitment to supporting sustainable oceans and fisheries by combating IUU fishing. They discussed working globally and building stronger public-private partnerships to address this global threat. Canada emphasized its support for combating IUU fishing by announcing that up to $10 million will be invested to support the development and deployment of satellite-based technologies that can remotely identify and track suspected IUU vessels. An additional investment of up to $1.6 million will contribute to the development of regional fisheries intelligence sharing for Western Central Pacific countries to share information, and develop new tools and best practices to eliminate IUU fishing in their waters.



 


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Today, there were twenty large trawlers working the Pamlico Sound actively transmitting a received AIS/MMSI signal (one vessel via satellite).

Capt Ralph
Bald Eagle 2
The unnamed vessel via satellite  
Vickie II
Lady Samaira
Little Bit
Capt Garland
Lillie Jane
Bridgot Denise
Tamara Alane
Capt Alex
Lady Madison
Birdie P
Caressa Mae
Jane Carolyn
Capt Cecil
Wanda Gail II
Jonathan Ryan
Capt Phillips
Lady Kimberly






Had a visual on the Linda Gayle heading out with the fleet and the vessel showed a position on Monday-



Linda Gayle is no longer transmitting a received AIS signal.






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