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Anyone know why ll D.was included in the reg? If transportation is defined in ll B. as part of the fishing operation, why combine two operations just to transport the catch to the dealer? Are dealers so few, and far between, that car-pooling is a significant benefit to the fishermen?  It just seems to be the perfect scenario where 5 reds and 9 reds can become 7 each. 

B. All transport of red drum subsequent to possession and prior to sale is considered to be part of the commercial fishing operation regardless of whether transport is by vessel, vehicle or other means.

C. All red drum that are sold, shall be sold prior to the sale of the flounder, bluefish, black drum or striped mullet species component of the daily landed catch.

D. The daily landed catch of red drum along with the daily landed catch of flounder, bluefish, black drum or striped mullet species taken in a commercial fishing operation must remain in the possession of the commercial fishing operation and be transported together up to the point of sale. Two SCFL holders from separate commercial fishing operations may transport their daily landed catch of red drum and associated target species as described above to the dealer in the same vehicle. A SCFL holder must accompany each single harvest limit until the time of sale to the dealer.
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If only it could be this easy to get things done for the resource!

THE MFC ADVISER
Marine Fisheries Commission Business Meeting
Hilton Garden Inn, Kitty Hawk, North Carolina
Nov. 19-21, 2014
 
PUBLIC MEETING – Nov. 19
Formal Comment Period
Asa Gray, a commercial fisherman from Rodanthe, said there should be some kind of night fishery for flounder allowed, at least to provide fish for the restaurants.  He requested that speckled trout and shad be allowed to be target species for drum. He said the transportation restrictions for red drum needs to be changed because a lot of fishermen ride together to the fish house and they should be allowed to transport more than one limit of red drum if both fishermen have their targeted species.

Issues from Commissioners
Red Drum Motion by Mikey Daniels to allow two limits of red drum to be transported in a vehicle from the boat to the market by two license holders, so long as appropriate targeted catch is transported with the red drum. Seconded by Alison Willis.  Motion passes 6-1, with 2 abstentions.
 
Motion by Chuck Laughridge to table the discussion regarding the previous motion until the February 2015 meeting.  Motion fails for lack of second.

The following commission members were in attendance: Sammy Corbett-Chairman, Anna Beckwith-Vice Chair, Mikey Daniels, Kelly Darden, Mark Gorges, Chuck Laughridge, Joe Shute, Mike Wicker and Alison Willis.

Audio can be found here.  Start listening at 1:06:16 ending at 1:21:08

Alison Willis seconded Mikey's motion.

Audio references a count of hands, not actual vote by each commissioner.

Listen to it. 

It doesn't sound like Jerry's "unbalanced" commission against all things commercial does it! The vote certainly doesn't support Jerry's claim.


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Thanks for the information, Rick, that link was depressing as hell.  Can anyone imagine trying to run a company, or have your life's savings invested in a company, with this commission as your board of directors?  It makes me wonder how much of the governor's real interest is invested. The differences between a resources commission, with nothing to sell, and a fisheries commission, with rampant conflicts of interest, is again, depressing as hell.
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Originally posted by Glacierbaze Glacierbaze wrote:

Thanks for the information, Rick, that link was depressing as hell.  Can anyone imagine trying to run a company, or have your life's savings invested in a company, with this commission as your board of directors?  It makes me wonder how much of the governor's real interest is invested. The differences between a resources commission, with nothing to sell, and a fisheries commission, with rampant conflicts of interest, is again, depressing as hell.

That was a 2014 meeting.

Commissioners voting were-

Sammy Corbett-Chairman (Appointed by Gov. McCrory
Anna Beckwith-Vice Chair (Appointed by Beverly Perdue)
Mikey Daniels (Appointed by Beverly Perdue)
Kelly Darden (Appointed by Beverly Perdue)
Mark Gorges (Appointed by Gov. McCrory)
Chuck Laughridge (Appointed by Gov. McCrory)
Joe Shute (Appointed by Beverly Perdue and reappointed by McCrory)
Alison Willis (Appointed by Gov. McCrory)
Mike Wicker (Appointed by Gov. McCrory)


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